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Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:20 pm
by Hurb
Years and years ago benecol advised me to get a ac30 as it was a good pedal platform. I never did.

But a ac30 cc1 came up locally with a bust speaker for cheap.
I swapped out the speaker from my epiphone Triggerman cab. And it's sounding great. I love the limited eq and options.

Need to try it with the band to see if it's staying but so far it sounds great. Pairing it with a rat pedal is insanely good sounding at least to my ears.

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Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:29 pm
by plopswagon
Jealzzzzz

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:13 pm
by NickD
Nice. At least once turn it all the way up, it’s a glorious sound. Super loud though.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:24 pm
by NickS
Very nice!

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:11 pm
by Mike
Always wanted one. Looks mint. Jealous!

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:27 pm
by Hurb
Cheers guys!
Been looking up proper speakers to go in it. Fucking hell speakers are well expensive!

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:53 pm
by Bacchus
AC30/Triggerman stereo rig?

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:01 pm
by Thom
Nice!

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:54 pm
by Hurb
Bacchus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:53 pm AC30/Triggerman stereo rig?
Unlikely. Gonna see how it works with or instead of the blackstar silverline at practice this week.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:01 pm
by Bacchus
Forgot about the Blackstar. You've had a good year for amps!

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:03 pm
by Mike
Get a greenback

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm
by ekwatts
Mike wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:03 pmGet a greenback
Don't do this. Sounds like shit. I don't care what anyone says. We had an anniversary model with two greenbacks that was gifted to my brother by Bernard from New Order. It had a busted transformer, so we thought it sounded shit because of that (for the five minutes it would stay on before the sound just faaaaaaaded ooooouuuut...), but we got that fixed and it still sounded like shit. So we plugged it into a Sound City cab with Vintage 30s and it sounded incredible.

Greenbacks are wank. I don't understand why people like them. They're proper shit. Total shit. Really, really bad.

I'm joking, they're not that bad, I just didn't like the way they sounded. I think it was something to do with the totality of the setup rather than "just" the speakers, but it was also the first time I'd ever fully realised what a difference different speakers actually made when I was A/B'ing the differently-equipped amps and cabs we had available. The AC30 was fucking skull-crushing at high volumes, and something about the Greenbacks made that kind of painful in a way that I can't quite explain (not least because this was way over ten years ago and I used to be wasted near constantly so WHO THE FUCK REALLY KNOWS), and plugging it into literally any other speaker smoothed that out in a much more pleasant way. From that point on I sort of never really "got" the appeal of Greenbacks. Specifically, I never got why they kept being loaded into AC30s. I can actually fully imagine them sounding great for all kinds of other amps, but the AC30 just seemed ill-suited to them. Another thing I appreciate now is mixing speakers, so a Greenback paired with another with differing characteristics... that could probably sound ace. Obviously not an option if you've got a 1x12 model.

I also think I have a problem in that I seem to be absolutely fucking addicted to slapping Celestion Vintage 30s in everything. I bought an Ampeg GT50 that had this Celestion 7080 speaker in it. It sounded fine. So I slapped a V30 in there and it sounded amazing. I have an Orange Tiny Terror combo with a V30 and it sounds great. I used to love my Peavey Classic 30, even with the stock Blue Marvel speaker. But I tried a friends with a V30 in it and it sounded so much better that it made me depressed. I had a custom Zilla cab built and loaded it with... well, Eminence speakers, actually, but one of them was basically just a copy of a Celestion V30. It sounds great.

So maybe don't listen to me. I just think everything should have a Celestion V30.

It would sound good with a V30, though. Maybe.. maybe look into that.

And yeah, speakers are fucking insanely expensive now. As I remember, back when I was building shit and doing things, I was picking proper Celestions/Eminence speakers up for somewhere around £60-£80. It's been 10 years since I replaced a speaker but that doesn't feel like enough time for the prices to have literally doubled... I dunno, maybe it is. Cost of living crisis, Hurb.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:24 pm
by sunshiner
As it's a 1x12 AC30, to do it right, you have to sell your neighbours' children and buy a proper Alnico Gold

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:22 pm
by Hurb
So you really don't like greenbacks Eric? Haha
I think they are too low wattage for the 1x12 anyway from what I've looked into it.

I have brought my silverline home from the practice space to have a play about. Firstly to see if I can get it to sound anything like the ac30 (which would kinda make the ac30 redundant as the silverline is way more practical) and then try it through the blackstar cab v12s. My bass player has the cc2 vox amp with greenbacks in so will get to try it through some greenbacks anyway.

For the places we will play up here this setup would be too big...but it looks pretty!
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Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:38 pm
by NickD
I’ve got an alnico gold in my Vox style amp - probably more bottom end than the archetypal Vox sound though. Alnico blues sound great in an ac30 too.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:43 pm
by Hurb
Definitely would have to save up for any of the alnicos though. They would have to sound amazingly better than what's in there currently.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:43 pm
by Bacchus
That is very pretty.

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Thom wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 6:16 pm I think the “stupid” must be catching.
It's been a good year for stupid.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:48 pm
by Hurb
Multiple amps for the win!

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:12 pm
by benecol
Nice purchase Hurbert. Been a long time since I've done any more than skim over a Wattspost (I'm not getting any younger, I only have so much time left to me), and think he maybe pulled a "just kidding" in the middle around the 500 word mark, but the Greenback sounded pretty good in my old AC15; the CC1 series (which I think came after this one?) were designed around the Greenback, apparently. I really rated that AC15 I had - was better for doing the cap mod to make the Top Boost play nicer with fuzzes, but the Rat > Vox combo is hard to beat (try an AC Booster too, that's another lovely combo, as is the Crowther Hot Cake).

And a stereo rig with a ping-ponging delay; now we're talking baby.

Also: do an perm, Brian.

Re: Done bought a vox ac30

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:43 pm
by Hurb
So tried to make the blackstar sound like the vox. I could get it pretty close actually. Although the vox still had something better going on. However adding the rat the vox was soooo much better and I couldn't get the blackstar to compete.

Both amps together as cool as it looked kinda just made everything sound worse. Don't know how much the M9 I was using to split things had to with that.
Trying the vox through the blackstar speaker was perhaps a bit better or bigger. But not worth bothering with bringing both along to practice or a gig I don't think.
I do hope I am not becoming a tone/tube snob. I am really not comfortable with that.
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