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Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:28 pm
by Bacchus
Not quite sure which is the best forum for this, but hey.

Having borrowed a Behringer B-5 for some vocal recordings, I was impressed with how good it sounded.

I decided to give a C-1 a go. I found a NOS one for (I think) £25 and went for it.

When I got it, I was a little concerned that there was a bit of buzz. I didn't have time to properly listen to it though, so left it as it was.

Today I got a proper look at it, and the buzz is loud enough that it's unusable. I wondered if it was an issue with my cables, but swapped them out and no better. I thought that maybe it's just the nature of the mic, but comparing it to similar gain levels from other mics, the noise is very noticeable.

I googled around, and decided to take it apart, make sure everything is grounded properly and that it's nice and clean.

Taking it apart, I noticed spider webs on the inside, and corrosion on the board. Probably not a big problem, but I cleaned that up first with some contact cleaner and a Q-tip.
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Next, the frame is finished in a thick, rubbery black paint. I took the top case (with grills) off the top and removed the finish from the points where the frame screws onto the case.

The case itself is, I'd assume, anodised somethingorother, so there isn't an issue with the finish on that side. But I gave it a clean anyway.
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Finally, where the grounding wire screws onto the frame.
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Once this was done, I re-assembled and tested it. Below is the result. First half is before the cleanup, second half is after.


Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:56 pm
by Gavin
cool, but from a scientific point of view, you should have made the changes one at a time so that you could isolate the issue. you fucked it. now we'll never know.

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:57 pm
by Gavin
also, the spider webs will have added a bonus spooky sound that has now been lost

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:59 pm
by Bacchus
A lot of the time when people think they've recorded ghost sounds, it is in fact spiders.

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:35 pm
by sunshiner
That's some spectacular work. I would've given up immediately and spent a day kicking myself for having bought "junk". People in the 60s didn't have a fraction of recording tools that we have but it didn't stop them from making great things.

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:50 pm
by plopswagon
OH NO! THE MOJO SPIDERS!!!

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:07 pm
by sunshiner
sunshiner wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:35 pm That's some spectacular work. I would've given up immediately and spent a day kicking myself for having bought "junk". People in the 60s didn't have a fraction of recording tools that we have but it didn't stop them from making great things.
These pop up in the local classifieds from time to time for very cheap and I probably should get one and start finally recording something.

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:49 am
by NickD
sunshiner wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:35 pm That's some spectacular work. I would've given up immediately and spent a day kicking myself for having bought "junk". People in the 60s didn't have a fraction of recording tools that we have but it didn't stop them from making great things.
Rudy Van Gelder recorded and mastered some of the best recorded jazz ever in his parents house, live with only a few mics.

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:08 am
by NickS
Nice work, PaRo!

Re: Behringer C1 Buzz Fix

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm
by sunshiner
NickD wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:49 am
sunshiner wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:35 pm That's some spectacular work. I would've given up immediately and spent a day kicking myself for having bought "junk". People in the 60s didn't have a fraction of recording tools that we have but it didn't stop them from making great things.
Rudy Van Gelder recorded and mastered some of the best recorded jazz ever in his parents house, live with only a few mics.
Thanks, Nick. I need to give Gelder a listen