Mustang pickups.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:02 am

I think I'm gonna go for these. Cheap hotrail from Hong Kong

it is probably the same one GFS and dragon fire sell, but straight from dealer or something. Dirt cheap, 6 dollar shipping, and 7K. I think I want lower ohms.

brianjdc · Post by **brianjdc** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:34 am

i urdered a set of lipstick pickups from the same seller a month or two back. sounded good. pretty sure they are still artec's even though he has a seperate section for them

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:11 pm

brianjdc wrote:i urdered a set of lipstick pickups from the same seller a month or two back. sounded good. pretty sure they are still artec's even though he has a seperate section for them

Good to hear they have been used by someone. I made an offer of 10 bucks on a pickup selling for 17 hah. I feel like a cheap ass, but I am!
I'm a student with no cash and a need for RAWK

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:22 pm

Would it result in bad sound to put a 11K hot rail in my neck position and a Gold Lace sensor in bridge?

I found a good deal on a somewhat not bad looking rail that is 11k

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:25 pm

I put a Hot Rail in my 69 and whilst it was okay at rawk it was shite for everything else, so i took it out. I put a stacked single coil in recently, the type Johnny Ramone used in his Mosrite. Still a true single coil but has more volume and depth, its working out okay.
I upgraded the tone cap as well for a paper and oil mojo jobbie which has definitely improved the tone performance and taken some of that brittle treble away.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:42 pm

I think you'll find an 11k hot rail to be incredibly high volume in the neck position. you'll probably never be able to balance it with a normal output bridge pickup. I don't know anything about lace pickups.

usually in mustangs; mid - high output pickups work well in the bridge position, and for the neck pickup low output pickups end up being a little higher output than you would think and sound really great.

edit: ok, just looked up the gold lace sensor, yeah, that is supposed to be a vintage style low output pickup. you will never be able to balance an 11k rail in the neck position with the gold lace sensor in the bridge. really, I think you want to do it the other way around. the gold lace sensor should sound really nice in the neck position and the rail should thicken things up quite well in the bridge position.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:46 am

Sweet thanks both of ya for the input.

Fran, is there any way to find affordable, and by affordable I mean sub $50 bucks or like 30 pounds double stacked single coils?

And I found a 11k I offered 17 for and they took, or I could pay like 20 and it would be 7k, which may be more suitable as a neck pickup.
I am imagining a rail in the neck for a neck humbucker sound, and a brittle single coil in neck, a la D.Boon or Richards.

But if I do as you suggest Mages, and put a rail in bridge for the Rawk! a 7K would not be as intense as a 11 or 12k...
I think if I do the bridge thing I am gonna go with a stupid high output like a 11-13... maybe not.

brianjdc · Post by **brianjdc** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:59 am

some of my guitars have really mismatched pickups, becuase i like the two distinct sounds. what i do is set my amps solo featureto volume for the low out put and just kick it on and off when i need. you could also have two settings on your amp and just change the volume between songs.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:06 am

yeah, I was thinking about that.... maybe you just want a really high output neck pickup? if that is really what you want don't let me tell you otherwise. but I think with the mustang it could be a bit weird because of the different switch positions combining the pickups. if one pickup is way off it will not mix evenly. again, maybe you don't want it evenly, I don't know. but I think it would have quite a different effect than the normal mustang switch positioning gives you.

Lucamo wrote:But if I do as you suggest Mages, and put a rail in bridge for the Rawk! a 7K would not be as intense as a 11 or 12k...
I think if I do the bridge thing I am gonna go with a stupid high output like a 11-13... maybe not.

either way could work yeah. 7k you will probably want to raise the pickup up closer to the strings, 11k you will probably want farther down.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:24 am

Yeah. I also am worried rails may not actually give the guitar a humbucker sound, and really just be noise cancelling really hot pickups... then I my whole plan may be fucked.

I basically want a fat humbucker tone in my neck without routing. UGH I'm gonna look for an demo of GFS Neovin or whatever those double stacked strat pickups are called.

brianjdc · Post by **brianjdc** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:31 am

i had a couple strats with seymour duncan jb jr's in em back in the day. they sounded really good. very humbuckerish

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:40 am

Yeah. So I have decided. I do not want to pay 20 bucks and get a gainish loud pickup I will not enjoy.

I am gonna either look for a Lace Sensor Blue, which is supposidly ver 'wam' like, or a Duncan single coil humbuckers of some sort, they are just pricey, and I am cheap.

brianjdc · Post by **brianjdc** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:45 am

keep an eye on craigslist they tend to pop up a good deal

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:54 am

there is one on the bay for like 44 bucks, which is pretty good, but 25 bucks shipping?! WTF for a pickup? Put it in a large envelope with bubble wrap and a fragile sticker.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:41 am

Lucamo wrote:Fran, is there any way to find affordable, and by affordable I mean sub $50 bucks or like 30 pounds double stacked single coils?

I struggled to find one but there is THIS, its the one i fitted. Its quite a deep pickup so it was a tight fit.
The sound has improved, its not as 'noiseless' as it suggests but it is better than the stock pickup and it still sounds like a Mustang.
The seller actually lives near me and he reckons a lot of this stuff comes from the same factory as Artec, GFS, etc. How true that is i dont know but i would'nt be surprised.

I used to use Hot Rails a lot but i think they look awful and they seem to mask the guitars character.

Lucamo · Post by **Lucamo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:33 pm

Fran wrote:
Lucamo wrote:Fran, is there any way to find affordable, and by affordable I mean sub $50 bucks or like 30 pounds double stacked single coils?
I struggled to find one but there is THIS, its the one i fitted. Its quite a deep pickup so it was a tight fit.
The sound has improved, its not as 'noiseless' as it suggests but it is better than the stock pickup and it still sounds like a Mustang.
The seller actually lives near me and he reckons a lot of this stuff comes from the same factory as Artec, GFS, etc. How true that is i dont know but i would'nt be surprised.

I used to use Hot Rails a lot but i think they look awful and they seem to mask the guitars character.

Thanks man, so it is quite big? It would be hard to have room in a mustang bridge position?
Wow that is quite affordable!

I found a JB Jr. for 40 plus 22 shipping, so I will get it for 66 bucks, used. Good deal? They are 75.95 on musicians friend and I'd get destroyed on shipping from them.
Hmmm. I am also considering paying 11 bucks shipping and not having insurance on it. The seller said he lost a box shipping to Canada last month when uninsured.

I feel lik thAT IS A fear tactic.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:13 pm

Lucamo wrote:so it is quite big? It would be hard to have room in a mustang bridge position?

Yeah its deep, but you can cut a notch in the plastic underneath for the wire if your like me and like low action.
I'll try and demo it this week, i'm busy at work though so it might not be until friday.

I'm thinking of getting another for the neck so it looks matched..