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Deluxe Bass Big Muff
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:51 pm
by ekwatts
Just noticed this:
http://www.ehx.com/products/deluxe-bass-big-muff-pi
It's already available from Gear4Music for delivery on the 20th.
Been lusting after a standard Bass Big Muff for guitar, would this be infinitely more useful, or are the enhancements only really relevant to bassists? It has a DI XLR out which seems like it might be handy, as well as a noise gate. Worth an extra £45 or so over the regular BBM?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:07 pm
by Noirie.
All these features are confusing me. They should reissue the original Deluxe Big Muff instead.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:01 am
by timhulio
Those graphics are woeful.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:45 am
by luciguci
It looks like an energy drink.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:17 am
by Viljami
timhulio wrote:Those graphics are woeful.
+1!
Also the new polychorus looks like ass, too.
Re: Deluxe Bass Big Muff
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:44 am
by Ainm
ekwatts wrote:Just noticed this:
http://www.ehx.com/products/deluxe-bass-big-muff-pi
It's already available from Gear4Music for delivery on the 20th.
Been lusting after a standard Bass Big Muff for guitar, would this be infinitely more useful, or are the enhancements only really relevant to bassists? It has a DI XLR out which seems like it might be handy, as well as a noise gate. Worth an extra £45 or so over the regular BBM?
I think the additional features of the Deluxe Bass Big Muff are really only going to be useful to bass players. It's got an XLR out, but I'm pretty sure it has no amp sim, so using it to DI a guitar signal would sound fairly awful. The filters in the crossover section are definitely designed for bass. The only useful additions that I can see (for guitarists) are the separate volume and blend controls. My great hope for the Deluxe Bass Big Muff is that bass players will start selling off their old Bass Big Muffs for cheap to raise money to buy it. I doubt the deluxe version be worth the extra money for a guitar player, but that's just my opinion. I suppose I just want a big muff with a blend knob.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:52 pm
by taylornutt
The Bass Big Muff is just a Black Russian Muff made in the USA with some additional modes. I bet the Deluxe Bass Big Muff will be great for guitar as well as Bass.
I wouldn't mind picking up a used Bass Big Muff just for the Blend mode alone.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:47 pm
by Stuart
Viljami wrote:timhulio wrote:Those graphics are woeful.
+1! .
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:12 am
by paul_
daftsupernova wrote:It looks like an energy drink.
Hahaha, exactly what I thought when I saw it.
TASTE THE BEAAAAST
The gate and input -10db cut option look incredibly useful. The XLR DI output I'm undecided on since it's a fucking fuzz pedal.
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:44 pm
by Billy3000
paul_ wrote:The XLR DI output I'm undecided on since it's a fucking fuzz pedal.
This. I wouldn't want my DI to also be a fuzz pedal
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:06 pm
by Jaded
Noirie. wrote:All these features are confusing me. They should reissue the original Deluxe Big Muff instead.
+1 and stick a decent compressor in it while they're at it.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:19 am
by frettedlefty
Shit the regular bass big muff was enough. Had one back in college but got rid of all my bass stuff. Too many knobs are too complicated for me. I want simplicity and still be able to get killer tone.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:20 am
by luciguci
frettedlefty wrote:the regular bass big muff was enough
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:42 pm
by Brandon W
I have been playing bass lately and experimenting. The only way i can get the tones i'm after is to double track the bass clean and then with the effects and pan them hard both directions. I love the way a regular big muff sounds and the way my old rat sounds with a bass but the bottom end is fucking gone. The problem is playing it perfectly with and without the effect. I'm sure most "real" musicians don't have trouble but i do. I have been playing the bass parts once and using a sound toys plug-in to get it close and then i have the exact same part with and without the effect. It's just not exactly the fuzz or drive i want and i'm so damn picky. Maybe this new muff will keep the low end better but with fuzz and then i'd get one! Thanks
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:44 pm
by taylornutt
brandonwinmill wrote:I have been playing bass lately and experimenting. The only way i can get the tones i'm after is to double track the bass clean and then with the effects and pan them hard both directions. I love the way a regular big muff sounds and the way my old rat sounds with a bass but the bottom end is fucking gone. The problem is playing it perfectly with and without the effect. I'm sure most "real" musicians don't have trouble but i do. I have been playing the bass parts once and using a sound toys plug-in to get it close and then i have the exact same part with and without the effect. It's just not exactly the fuzz or drive i want and i'm so damn picky. Maybe this new muff will keep the low end better but with fuzz and then i'd get one! Thanks
It also has a Bass Boost mode.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:55 pm
by Brandon W
taylornutt wrote:brandonwinmill wrote:I have been playing bass lately and experimenting. The only way i can get the tones i'm after is to double track the bass clean and then with the effects and pan them hard both directions. I love the way a regular big muff sounds and the way my old rat sounds with a bass but the bottom end is fucking gone. The problem is playing it perfectly with and without the effect. I'm sure most "real" musicians don't have trouble but i do. I have been playing the bass parts once and using a sound toys plug-in to get it close and then i have the exact same part with and without the effect. It's just not exactly the fuzz or drive i want and i'm so damn picky. Maybe this new muff will keep the low end better but with fuzz and then i'd get one! Thanks
It also has a Bass Boost mode.
When i've talked to people about the lack of low end with certain effects they usually tell me that i can't have both without double tracking. Something about the fuzz or drive and a heavy bottom won't happen together but i find that hard to believe. If it works then i'd get one no matter what color it is.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:19 pm
by Brandon W
I just saw a demo of tim's scrambled brainz and i think that one may work. I've always like the voodoo labs sparkle drive because it lets you blend in some of the original signal. Wouldn't you be able to roll the clean bass signal back in until i have some bottom back and still have a fuzzy dirty sound? I think i want that one.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:44 pm
by benecol
Loev my scrambled brainz for precisely this reason - also a great overdrive, believe it or not.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:57 pm
by Brandon W
benecol wrote:Loev my scrambled brainz for precisely this reason - also a great overdrive, believe it or not.
Thank you. That is the one i'll get.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:07 pm
by Ankhanu
brandonwinmill wrote:I have been playing bass lately and experimenting. The only way i can get the tones i'm after is to double track the bass clean and then with the effects and pan them hard both directions. I love the way a regular big muff sounds and the way my old rat sounds with a bass but the bottom end is fucking gone. The problem is playing it perfectly with and without the effect. I'm sure most "real" musicians don't have trouble but i do. I have been playing the bass parts once and using a sound toys plug-in to get it close and then i have the exact same part with and without the effect. It's just not exactly the fuzz or drive i want and i'm so damn picky. Maybe this new muff will keep the low end better but with fuzz and then i'd get one! Thanks
Use an A/B/Y pedal or a stereo effect pedal in the line, record the clean and effected signals simultaneously - perfect match.
I am doing/did this with my Bass VI parts in my band's album (still tracking); I used my Boss CEB-3 to split my signal, sent one channel to my Twin Reverb and one channel to a SansAmp. Twin gives a nice balanced, though slightly less fundamental, tone with reverb, the SansAmp gives me all the standard bass goodness.
You can do the same sort of thing, but put your dirt after the split.
I've been basically doing this in practice too, splitting and biamping with my Twin and Peavey T-Max. It's wicked, and when I engage the chorus, the stereo effect is pretty neat too.